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I\u0026#39;m hoping that some of the ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thank you, Linda. I\u0026#39;m hoping that some of the churches that started offering Morning Prayer might reconsider and have celebrations of the Eucharist. After all, individuals can say the Daily Office on their own (though it is good to share it with others). I\u0026#39;ve been watching the livecast on YouTube from the National Cathedral; so that is an option available to anyone with an internet connection."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/2133851414931083356\/comments\/default\/7593500912012090237"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/2133851414931083356\/comments\/default\/7593500912012090237"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/03\/the-broken-body.html?showComment=1585503262622#c7593500912012090237","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/03\/the-broken-body.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-2133851414931083356","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/2133851414931083356","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"March 29, 2020"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-8725807424935156021"},"published":{"$t":"2020-03-29T11:02:42.175-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2020-03-29T11:02:42.175-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"But most places are offering only Morning Prayer o..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"But most places are offering only Morning Prayer or \u0026quot;ante-communion.\u0026quot; It\u0026#39;s one thing not to be able to partake of the Eucharist -- it\u0026#39;s quite another if it is not celebrated at all!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/2133851414931083356\/comments\/default\/8725807424935156021"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/2133851414931083356\/comments\/default\/8725807424935156021"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/03\/the-broken-body.html?showComment=1585497762175#c8725807424935156021","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Linda in VT"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/09819641132290227591"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"21","height":"32","src":"\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-YSQ_WtxcFIs\/Vqv389f2X5I\/AAAAAAAAAHQ\/YYq79Di7mgw\/s113\/12401637_1123857457627183_4732531646842494011_o.jpg"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/03\/the-broken-body.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-2133851414931083356","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/2133851414931083356","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1706209401"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"March 29, 2020"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5813428852400103402"},"published":{"$t":"2020-03-24T13:21:47.526-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2020-03-24T13:21:47.526-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"A belated “thank you,” Molly. I suspect the curren..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"A belated “thank you,” Molly. I suspect the current COVID-19 crisis may well teach the church a thing or two... at least I hope so.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnd to the anonymous poster, I don\u0026#39;t normally pass along anonymous comments, but did so in this case as a way of sharing your dismay. The inability of the church to discipline misbehavior among its leaders is one of its greatest failings. I understand any bitterness you may feel and hope that time and new prospects may bring you to healing of that feeling of betrayal. God bless you."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5813428852400103402"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5813428852400103402"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html?showComment=1585074107526#c5813428852400103402","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-8757608895285578159","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/8757608895285578159","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"March 24, 2020"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5393522672154894058"},"published":{"$t":"2020-03-23T22:51:58.231-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2020-03-23T22:51:58.231-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I was born into the Episcopal Church and active fo..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I was born into the Episcopal Church and active for more than 50 years, but after being told in writing by +Susan Goff that the diocese of Virginia will not address my former priest’s perjury against me unless he faces criminal charges, I am done. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EIt is so very sad to have left the church behind, but I truly believe that Churchianity truly is experiencing a fatal illness when it cannot even address clergy misconduct.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EApologies in advance, BTW, if I sound bitter."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5393522672154894058"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5393522672154894058"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html?showComment=1585021918231#c5393522672154894058","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-8757608895285578159","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/8757608895285578159","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1869279345"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"March 23, 2020"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5243806618635375574"},"published":{"$t":"2020-01-20T13:30:02.495-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2020-01-20T13:30:02.495-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"For years, I have found my best Christian communit..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"For years, I have found my best Christian community online, and even though individual cyber communities have failed, these links keep me in touch with the company of pilgrims.  My “real life” church is moribund because it serves the past, not the Gospel.  The god of Tradition and Propriety is not the God of Love.  Moreover, the theology I encounter in church fails to do its work of wrestling with angels; too much of it suffers from either disengagement or Bibliolatry.  I do pray that church can undergo a cleansing crisis, but it may need to hit bottom first."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5243806618635375574"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/8757608895285578159\/comments\/default\/5243806618635375574"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html?showComment=1579545002495#c5243806618635375574","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Molly Wolf"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/07486395152415311848"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2020\/01\/sickness-unto-death.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-8757608895285578159","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/8757608895285578159","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1518399721"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"January 20, 2020"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-8072418709467051095"},"published":{"$t":"2019-03-12T09:08:45.631-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2019-03-12T09:08:45.631-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thank you, WDG.\n\nOtming, this is part of the downs..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thank you, WDG.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EOtming, this is part of the downside of a church polity that is structured globally but executed locally; and that cuts both ways, as you describe -- and a few recalcitrant bishops to the contrary, a priest who wishes to bless a same-sex couple\u0026#39;s marriage cannot be stopped from doing so in any of the domestic dioceses of The Episcopal Church. All clergy still have a right not to solemnize any given marriage, but General Convention (2018) intended that this should not be a bar to a couple being married in their own diocese. We are living in a time of transition, and the movement towards justice is slow; but when I think of what I have seen in my own lifetime, I am convinced that only the power of God could make it so. 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If negative freedom of conscience is honored, why isn’t positive freedom?"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7153750815769788010\/comments\/default\/4877217709998937041"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7153750815769788010\/comments\/default\/4877217709998937041"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2019\/02\/room-at-table.html?showComment=1552344526774#c4877217709998937041","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"otming"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/18024428875536064642"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2019\/02\/room-at-table.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-7153750815769788010","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/7153750815769788010","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-442882645"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"March 11, 2019"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-7126207042349233682"},"published":{"$t":"2019-02-24T23:03:44.463-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2019-02-24T23:03:44.463-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"\u0026quot;His method, it seems, is to do good, treatin..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"\u0026quot;His method, it seems, is to do good, treating all the same, and let the chips fall where they may.\u0026quot; \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EAnd where does it say that?  Oh, yeah--in today\u0026#39;s gospel reading."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7153750815769788010\/comments\/default\/7126207042349233682"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7153750815769788010\/comments\/default\/7126207042349233682"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2019\/02\/room-at-table.html?showComment=1551067424463#c7126207042349233682","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"wdg_pgh"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/15990866393869521490"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2019\/02\/room-at-table.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-7153750815769788010","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/7153750815769788010","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-94831890"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 24, 2019"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-1146902975746731713"},"published":{"$t":"2018-12-31T16:25:18.677-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-12-31T16:25:18.677-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thanks, Michael. I\u0026#39;m hoping to post more in th..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thanks, Michael. I\u0026#39;m hoping to post more in the new year. Not a resolution exactly, but a firm intention."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4794693574930329140\/comments\/default\/1146902975746731713"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4794693574930329140\/comments\/default\/1146902975746731713"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/12\/not-our-doing.html?showComment=1546291518677#c1146902975746731713","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/12\/not-our-doing.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4794693574930329140","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/4794693574930329140","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"December 31, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-2518876136528685813"},"published":{"$t":"2018-12-31T12:20:15.375-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-12-31T12:20:15.375-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"It\u0026#39;s been so long since you\u0026#39;ve written her..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"It\u0026#39;s been so long since you\u0026#39;ve written here.  Glad to read your wonderful insights.  Michael Merriman"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4794693574930329140\/comments\/default\/2518876136528685813"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4794693574930329140\/comments\/default\/2518876136528685813"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/12\/not-our-doing.html?showComment=1546276815375#c2518876136528685813","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"merrymike"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/12873481218912159488"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/12\/not-our-doing.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4794693574930329140","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/4794693574930329140","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-893333557"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"December 31, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3839370380450824030"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-10T09:49:07.619-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-10T09:49:07.619-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Your post would be funnier were it not so poignant..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Your post would be funnier were it not so poignant. It goes a bit further than my \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/deimel.org\/church_resources\/troubled.htm\" rel=\"nofollow\"\u003Erecent prayer\u003C\/a\u003E:\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EFor a Troubled Nation\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EGod of justice and mercy, who delivered your people from the oppression of Pharaoh, protect us from greed, ignorance, and malevolence in our political leaders, and help us make our nation one of peace, liberty, and justice, in harmony with your creation and exhibiting the love of Jesus Christ our Lord, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. \u003Ci\u003EAmen.\u003C\/i\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/3839370380450824030"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/3839370380450824030"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html?showComment=1518274147619#c3839370380450824030","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Lionel Deimel"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08363018512775944659"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"29","height":"32","src":"\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-rMaXrjDEg_E\/V6uFBTufF-I\/AAAAAAAADbo\/RjDnciEGQIoVh3BX6goU60PNFi7KYldlgCK4B\/s220\/DSCN0949.JPG"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3886577015553614065","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/3886577015553614065","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-935265243"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 10, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-2645008107818973025"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-10T01:48:05.668-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-10T01:48:05.668-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"A Sign-language catechism for non-human animals (c..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"A Sign-language catechism for non-human animals (cf. Penny Patterson and Koko)"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/2645008107818973025"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/2645008107818973025"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html?showComment=1518245285668#c2645008107818973025","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"George"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/01034543498553829977"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3886577015553614065","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/3886577015553614065","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1496835748"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 10, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-6688802855696714083"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-09T16:04:31.656-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-09T16:04:31.656-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"A Rite of Ambivalent Confession for Those So Entit..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"A Rite of Ambivalent Confession for Those So Entitled.\u003Cbr \/\u003EA Commendation of The Souls of Daily Villains to Outer Darkness.\u003Cbr \/\u003EPsalms for the Butthurt\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/6688802855696714083"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/6688802855696714083"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html?showComment=1518210271656#c6688802855696714083","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Anonymous"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/blank.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3886577015553614065","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/3886577015553614065","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1869279345"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 09, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-1153035594989211345"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-09T15:40:35.477-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-09T15:40:35.477-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"That made the hair stand up on the back of my neck..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"That made the hair stand up on the back of my neck!\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E• The Rite for the extinction of a species.\u003Cbr \/\u003E• The Rite for the Memorial of an Indigenous People\/culture\/language.\u003Cbr \/\u003E• The Rite for the redundancy of a denomination."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/1153035594989211345"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/3886577015553614065\/comments\/default\/1153035594989211345"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html?showComment=1518208835477#c1153035594989211345","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Brother David"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/06333089314994730330"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"32","height":"32","src":"http:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-5nLwf6rP4xo\/VA5LYPesnLI\/AAAAAAAAA8w\/D32lP5Xzqik\/s220\/Photo%2B1.png"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/on-prayer-book-revision-satire.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3886577015553614065","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/3886577015553614065","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1033675761"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 09, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-847062953658739711"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-09T10:47:15.547-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-09T10:47:15.547-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Georges, while I agree that \u0026quot;Creator, Redeeme..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Georges, while I agree that \u0026quot;Creator, Redeemer, Sanctifier\u0026quot; is not a sufficient or helpful replacement for \u0026quot;Father, Son, Spirit\u0026quot; on the first count (it doesn\u0026#39;t preserve the relations) I am not so sure about the objection to the functions, unless it descends into a purely modalist understanding in which the functions are the \u003Ci\u003Eonly\u003C\/i\u003E distinction between the Persons. After all, the Nicene Creed itself identifies the Father as God the \u0026quot;maker of heaven and earth,\u0026quot; and focuses the actual work of redemption in God the Son. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI say all this with some bemusement, as I regard almost all discussions of the Trinity to be asymptotic at best, regarding truth. I prefer to limit my reflection to the Creed itself, and not worry too much about the mechanism.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EWhat I\u0026#39;m objecting to in the O.P. is the assertion by some that God is actually male. That is surely wrong!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4417972066893937675\/comments\/default\/847062953658739711"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4417972066893937675\/comments\/default\/847062953658739711"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/god-without-sex.html?showComment=1518191235547#c847062953658739711","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/god-without-sex.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4417972066893937675","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/4417972066893937675","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 09, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-3180006109769079495"},"published":{"$t":"2018-02-09T07:35:29.632-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2018-02-09T07:35:29.632-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Indeed. However, the same word is used from Jesus ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Indeed. However, the same word is used from Jesus onwards not in the meaning of \u0026quot;creator\u0026quot;, but in respect of the Trinity. He is the source of being to the Son and to the Spirit.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe current error I see in churches is to replace «the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit» by «the Creator and the Redeemer and the Sanctifier», which is a dubble error. First, it does not render the interpersonal relationships within the Trinity, but rather some relationships with the creation (God cannot be defined only by his relationship with his creation). Second, all the three persons are creator and sanctifier, and implied in the redeption.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EMost of the Romanian-language liturgical texts (except the Lord\u0026#39;s prayer and the doxology) call God the Father «Pãrinte» (\u0026quot;Parent\u0026quot;). On the other hand, Mary is also called «sancta parens» (\u0026quot;holy parent\u0026quot;).\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThis leads us to one occasin, when «Father» and «mother» cannot be rendered as «parent.» Patrology and liturgy speak of Jesus as: «motherless begotten of the Father, before the worlds, and fatherless born of the mother.»\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4417972066893937675\/comments\/default\/3180006109769079495"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/4417972066893937675\/comments\/default\/3180006109769079495"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/god-without-sex.html?showComment=1518179729632#c3180006109769079495","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"George"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/01034543498553829977"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2018\/02\/god-without-sex.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4417972066893937675","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/4417972066893937675","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1496835748"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"February 09, 2018"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-7916953527964957379"},"published":{"$t":"2017-12-04T11:39:54.294-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-12-04T11:39:54.294-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Georges, I think this is spot on. I can well imagi..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Georges, I think this is spot on. I can well imagine civilized society 100 years from now looking back on the meat industry of today with horror."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/6711548909985395073\/comments\/default\/7916953527964957379"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/6711548909985395073\/comments\/default\/7916953527964957379"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/12\/secret-faults.html?showComment=1512405594294#c7916953527964957379","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/12\/secret-faults.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-6711548909985395073","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/6711548909985395073","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"December 04, 2017"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-4567268415869140299"},"published":{"$t":"2017-12-03T06:11:06.076-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-12-03T06:11:06.076-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Fr Tobias, one of those things commonly accepted, ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Fr Tobias, one of those things commonly accepted, especially among Christians, is the unjustified killing of the non-human animals, their exploitation, and all the culture that encompasses that. Veganism is much more practised by atheists than by Christians, that are still using bad hermeneutics to justify the unjustifiable. And this makes us loose credibility, and the Gospel cannot be proclaimed. For the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light."},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/6711548909985395073\/comments\/default\/4567268415869140299"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/6711548909985395073\/comments\/default\/4567268415869140299"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/12\/secret-faults.html?showComment=1512299466076#c4567268415869140299","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"George"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/01034543498553829977"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/12\/secret-faults.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-6711548909985395073","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/6711548909985395073","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-1496835748"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"December 03, 2017"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-9134469925300924775"},"published":{"$t":"2017-11-30T07:43:30.222-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-11-30T07:43:30.222-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Brilliant. "},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Brilliant. "},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/891327665658365570\/comments\/default\/9134469925300924775"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/891327665658365570\/comments\/default\/9134469925300924775"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/11\/new-version-of-psalm-23.html?showComment=1512045810222#c9134469925300924775","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Kaliputra"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/07907752362236005308"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/11\/new-version-of-psalm-23.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-891327665658365570","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/891327665658365570","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-800812031"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"November 30, 2017"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-932039990551808735"},"published":{"$t":"2017-09-23T08:47:54.682-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-09-23T08:47:54.682-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Interesting relating this to a different context. ..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Interesting relating this to a different context. Of course, it is a different context, and I\u0026#39;m not sure prasada is quite the same as the sacrificial offerings in whatever cults Paul is referencing.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EI agree that the shift was likely as much mere desuetude as anything else; but that\u0026#39;s really what I mean by a \u0026quot;Pauline direction.\u0026quot; My impression is that even for the pagans the food offerings were not so central to worship; and as is clear from the Athenian incidents, at least some of the more refined pagans ranged from virtual atheists to obliging syncretists who were always ready to hear of new religious notions. The real test case for Christians, when it came to it, didn\u0026#39;t involve food, but burning incense to the Emperor or other gods.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EStill, the social context is important. Paul sees the eucharist in that \u0026quot;confecting\u0026quot; way -- it is constitutive of the body of the church; indeed this is the analogy he uses for his rejection of the \u0026quot;table of demons.\u0026quot; \u0026quot;Don\u0026#39;t get \u0026#39;joined\u0026#39; with that sort of thing.\u0026quot; So yes there is more here than mere conviviality; my only wondering is the extent to which most of the pagans took this seriously -- though there were apparently \u0026#39;weaker\u0026#39; folks (perhaps on both sides) who were exercised over this.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EBut then again, my point is about the eventual demise of the macguffin -- whatever it is -- that in a later era is seen as unimportant. Adiaphora never seem unimportant to those who find them important. \u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPerhaps the most amusing thing to note is the very existence of such a thing as \u0026quot;the adiaphora controversy!\u0026quot;\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThanks for the comment on this now almost decade old post!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/5688234266750556809\/comments\/default\/932039990551808735"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/5688234266750556809\/comments\/default\/932039990551808735"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2008\/01\/discord-and-dissension-early-years.html?showComment=1506174474682#c932039990551808735","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2008\/01\/discord-and-dissension-early-years.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5688234266750556809","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/5688234266750556809","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"September 23, 2017"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5098143137651095341"},"published":{"$t":"2017-09-22T16:39:22.565-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-09-22T16:39:22.565-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"I don\u0026#39;t think the issue of food offered to ido..."},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"I don\u0026#39;t think the issue of food offered to idols went away in a Pauline direction. I think the practice in society at large ended, and the church no longer needed to fret about it.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EBut then you enter a different context, and the issue appears in all its nuance. From my understanding, many Christians in India do not accept prasada.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EPart of the nuance of Paul\u0026#39;s position is that the issue (for the cognoscenti) becomes not so much \u0026quot;what you know happened\u0026quot; but rather \u0026quot;how is this read in its social context\u0026quot;. He did not approve of going to the pagan temple, standing with the rest of the worshipers, and eating the food in the temple precincts, but he was fine with buying meat in the public market even if you knew it was probably sacrificed that morning to a pagan god - unless the \u0026quot;weaker brothers\u0026quot; see you and think you are joining in pagan worship, and then why not abstain for their sake?\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESo how is it read? In India my understanding is that most Christian communities are not united in opposition to taking prasada. There may be some \u0026quot;weaker brothers\u0026quot; around, but it\u0026#39;s not so much. On the other hand, the distribution of prasada is not like a public sale of meat in the market; it\u0026#39;s always done as a gesture of sharing in a religious service. Though it might be significantly after, taking the prasada around the neighborhood and offering it to all and sundry.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EHow is the action read? As human conviviality? Or as sharing in worship? What if the sharing in worship *is* the human conviviality? This is not a simple question, but I think those are the questions to consider.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/5688234266750556809\/comments\/default\/5098143137651095341"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/5688234266750556809\/comments\/default\/5098143137651095341"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2008\/01\/discord-and-dissension-early-years.html?showComment=1506116362565#c5098143137651095341","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"thomas bushnell, bsg"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/10182516950814650920"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2008\/01\/discord-and-dissension-early-years.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-5688234266750556809","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/5688234266750556809","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-432703262"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"September 22, 2017"}]},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-2987883991169295085"},"published":{"$t":"2017-09-02T09:05:33.973-05:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2017-09-02T09:05:33.973-05:00"},"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Thanks, Mary Clara and Sarah!"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"Thanks, Mary Clara and Sarah!"},"link":[{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7584758804184442493\/comments\/default\/2987883991169295085"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/6786565\/7584758804184442493\/comments\/default\/2987883991169295085"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/08\/light-not-heat.html?showComment=1504361133973#c2987883991169295085","title":""}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Tobias Stanislas Haller BSG"},"uri":{"$t":"https:\/\/www.blogger.com\/profile\/08047429477181560685"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$in-reply-to":{"xmlns$thr":"http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0","href":"http:\/\/blog.tobiashaller.net\/2017\/08\/light-not-heat.html","ref":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6786565.post-7584758804184442493","source":"http://www.blogger.com/feeds/6786565/posts/default/7584758804184442493","type":"text/html"},"gd$extendedProperty":[{"name":"blogger.itemClass","value":"pid-131061690"},{"name":"blogger.displayTime","value":"September 02, 2017"}]}]}});